, it would be a fact, and it would be a fact that here's a black u.s. senator from the deep south. that would be significant, i think. and a big step for the party. >> do you have a view on this, congressman? >> i do. i have a view on almost everything. >> you fit right in, my man. you fit right in. >> the good news is that there is revolutionary thinking going on in the republican party. tim scott is a conservative, 1,000 times more conservative than me, but i like tim scott because he's a good guy. he doesn't say crazy things. he doesn't attack people with nasty labels. so he's a good guy. keep in mind, however, that -- and i think this is a mistake the republican party has made -- that they assume that if they reach out to african-americans, meaning run radio spots on black radio, that that's reaching out. that's not. there are policy changes that are going to take place. and tim scott's going to have essentially the same policies that demint had. he's going to embrace those policies. >> gene, i want to ask you a question, and then i want the chairman to answer it. it's interesting you men